Board Game Breakfast – Strategery
Tom Vasel takes a look at things he found on the internet. Tom gives thoughtful input on a made-up word. Plus, many segments by a host of board gaming experts. Episode # 284
Segments:
0:22 Welcome
1:57 What You Missed on the Internet This Week
4:10 We Game Together
7:14 Accessorize
10:25 Dice Tower Productions
12:02 Speed Quiz
14:13 Solo Mode Games
16:13 Dice Tower Library Additions
17:14 No Enemies Here
19:55 Meeple University
21:54 Tom Thinks
27:13 Second Chance Shelf
29:12 Potable Gaming
31:14 Board Game evangelism
33:00 Closing Thoughts
This week’s Internet Links:
Game Recommendation
Biggest Lie About Playing Time
Chaz Marler on Integrity
Inside the Box Time Stories
Homemade Game Table
Shut up and Sit Down reviews Underwater Cities
Designer Diary – Dead Man’s Cabal
Tribute to Paul Shabatowski
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Strategy articles can be useful to also see how something works. Ok you have these abilities how do they work with each other? Am I missing something? What stops a player from doing this strategy in a game? These are questions that strategy articles often answer. It also teaches you how to start thinking or seeing strategy as you play without having to read articles.
I only read strategies for ccg type games. Even then I usually try to develop strategies myself, I just find it interesting. With other boardgames I don't because everyone is just playing for fun, and it would be silly to learn all the winning strategies for a game that my friends never played/ only played a few times
@potablegaming – I saw you at UKGE but you were busy at the time, otherwise I would have said hi and thanked you for your great segments! You cover a lot of the games we take on our travels 🙂
Good luck to Netters Plays. I will miss it.
Glad to see @noenemieshere is back! nice accesible game for non-wargamers. reminds me a bit to memoir 44
Ellen's eyes opened on where all family budget goes 😀
Hi Tom. Have you ever played in a rated chess tournament?
The only times I've looked up strategy for games it is only for basic strategy on a heavy game that I know everyone else at the table has already played. Basically a way for me to "get up to speed" with everyone at the table. Some of those heavy games are brutal if you don't at least have some basic know how…
I'll never look up ways to break a game or find the "best" strategy. Figuring out a game is what makes them so fun for me. ~Randy
What happened to the Dead Last segment?
@Sam best accessory find yet!
Randy and Ellen – You guys are great. I really appreciate your laid back style and you seem like a super fun couple to play games with. Thanks for sharing a little slice of your life with us.
@Randy and Ellen: I noticed Obsession on your shelf and wondered if you can do a segment on it in the future. My wife and I just picked it up and played it once. So far loving it. We put it up right up there with Viticulture. My wife and my friends wife both love Pride and Prejudice books/movies, so I can't wait for the four of us to play this. Very thematic.
@Tom thinks: There is another reason why some players resort to strategy guides, or in my case playing versus very good opponents; to better ones self. A number of years ago, before getting into modern board gaming, I was one of those people who avoided playing any game in which my opponent(s) were much better than myself. Then one day I found Scrabble online. I was terrible at the game, and when I started those online players showed no mercy. I decided that for once I was not going to back down. They were a kind group of people that did not mind me playing with them. I knew I was going to lose everytime, but my goal was not to beat them, but to improve myself.
Slowly over months and even years of play I improved to their level and started to beat them about 50/50. We had mini tournaments that were neck and neck and I look back on the whole experience with very fond memories. I have since stopped playing scrabble and now love designer board games. While I would not even put scrabble in my top 10 games now, I will never forget the time I took to better myself at something I once thought I would never be good enough at.
I certainly don't do this with most of my games, but I encourage everyone to do this at least once in their life. It shows that you can take a fear of never getting better, and beating the odds. That little voice in our heads that says "i'll never be able to…" can be very loud. It feels very good when we can finally silence it.
One of the best TOM THINKS so far. Somebody just had to voice this gaming phenomenon for the community.
i see star trek. talk out
In my local group I'm the most invested and usually the one to teach the games, which usually puts me at an inherent advantage: Simply by studying the components and researching the games (KS campaigns, BGG) I do a similar thing to reading strategy guides. Personally I like to dive deep into games and to read strategy guides, but I'm limiting it to games that are abundandly big (currently 40k), or where I've played and discovered enough to compare my findings. Reading and discussing strategies offers a way to experience a game outside of the local group and at any time one feels the urge to do so.
This is also why a limited but existing amount of randomness is very important in my/our games. Unlike chess, which is a good sport, but a bad game – as without a random element the better player will usually win – elements like the mandates in RisingSun, deckbuilding in ForbiddenStars, etc. make games interesting and exciting to me and my opponents.
Loosing is something I acutally enjoy (and thanks to my GF I've got quite experienced in it), as it shows that the game has life left in it and I love it when my friends read about games to get stronger, as it pushes the intensity.
Board game evangelist: I played a lot of monopoly and risk and I think that led to my enjoyment of catan. I also like area control probably because of risk. I like dice combat also probably because of risk.
Air pollution can be an issue in Bejing be aware. Have great trip. Cant wait to see the videos of your trip. I miss living in Asia.
I wish they'd bring back the "Tom is Wrong" segment, just so I can say he is wrong to pronounce .gif "JIFF" …. it's a hard G, "GHIFF"…
13:01 Amy's face when "The Resistance " counts as a "Sci Fi game" haha
Pillars of Eternity is a great game, you've good taste 🙂
Hi Sam, Thanks for coverage on our X-Case much appreciate. Keep up the great work. BTW, we do normally have "Clear" cases but we unfortunately they have been sold out for a few months now. We hope to remedy that this year.
One of these episodes I'm expecting Tom to say "This week on the internet I found….this hat I'm wearing!"
I often get into games that someone else has been playing for a while. For instance, Dice Masters. I have a group that drafts a box every few weeks. But they have been playing for years. So on draft nights, I do well. I don't always win, I don't always lose. I win 40% of the time during drafts. But when I play premade decks I get destroyed. I don't have a huge number of cards. Nor do I know all the different combos. So I need to look at strategy tips to build decks. I still lose all the time, but it's lowering the amount of times I feel that I am getting destroyed without doing a single damage. But if I am playing a game with someone, and we haven't played before. Then I'll just look at rules. I am not trying to destroy them. Just enjoy the game the first time. I don't care as much about winning as many of the people in my group. But I don't enjoy feeling like I belong at the kid's table either.
I disagree with Ellen about the Town Hall variant is a lot of waiting. In the town hall variant, you will get what you want guaranteed every three turns. In the basic version, you have to wait til it’s your turn to get what you want guaranteed. In a two-three player game that’s negligible. In a 6 player game, it’s infuriating.
There aren't good/reliable strategy articles for most boardgames. Good players have usually discovered the strategies by themselves anyway.
Amy, I love your hair! <3
We game together, I would love to hear your top games you guys love playing with just you 2🙌🏽
Tom keeps all his “strategery” guides in a “lockbox” (thank you, Dubya, Gore and SNL for some hilarious skits).
But regarding this subject of strategy, since I am the one typically introducing new games to my friends, I have to limit the amount of content I consume when determining whether to buy a game or not. This is why Hive almost never gets played. Just knowing the correct movement for each piece makes it almost impossible to introduce to new players. If I want them to have a chance to win, I have to severely throttle back and “play dumb”.
I love the discovery experience with other players, so I now just try to avoid the strategy forums on BGG and watch only reviews or gameplay instruction videos to inform myself.